Tranquil Spirit, Northwich, Cheshire, UK - Spirit Communications: International Conflict

Spirit Communications:

International Conflict

Conflict between countries. The need for impartiality and respect. The conflict between Georgia and Russia. Conditions in China.

The group had been discussing the difficulties between Russia and Georgia. One member commented:

Q: Ghandi's philosophy of non-violence was to reach out to the perpetrator at a human level with peaceful resistance. I don't think you could have stopped Nazi Germany by not putting up a resistance, so how do we decide when there is no other way? Which of the two positions do you support, Hai?

Hai: You must adopt skilful means, my friends, so far as this is possible. You must always adopt skilful means. And these skilful means are not adopted in proper measure; people do not adopt skilful means; they do not have their finger on the pulse. They do not respond to situations before these situations escalate out of proportion. Therefore, you in your world, your politicians, especially your diplomats, must become more skilful, must become cleverer, and must become more knowledgeable. It is not about forming alliances with one country against another or with one country in preference to another. It is about reading a situation and finding the way forward as you would find your way forward through rapids in a canoe, yes? You do so skilfully, pragmatically, and you find a way through.

But you in your world, your countries are not even handed. They are not dispassionate, impartial. They have preferences, they have leanings, and they have friends, yes? This is not good when you are trying to resolve conflicts and problems between your different countries. Therefore, it takes someone like the sailors who used to sit on top of the top-most mast of the ship to gain a better view. So your diplomats must do this to gain a better view, a more impartial view, a dispassionate view, to see the truth of things as far as they can, to get a broad perspective upon things and to find a way through, neither favouring one nor the other. It is because you are not forward thinking, not dispassionate, not impartial, not looking ahead at the consequences of things, that causes things to escalate out of proportion. Once things have escalated out of proportion then you may find yourselves in military conflict and suchlike things. And once military conflict is entered into there is no way out that is easy. There will be much bloodshed, much tears, much loss, much grief. It is to be avoided at all costs in so far as this can be done. For it reflects failure when military conflict occurs; it comes about as a failure.

Yet in your world these things will come to pass sometimes. It is inevitable given the evolution of the human species. But it is to be avoided in so far as it can be avoided. When you all respect each other's rights, respect each other's wishes, be prepared to compromise, be prepared to give more than you take, then these things will be avoided at their root, at their source, yes.

Another group member then commented on the situation between Russia and Georgia. Hai said:

Hai: Russia is the big bear, yes? It is the big bear in your world. You do not poke at a bear, no? If you poke at a bear, what will happen? You will get bitten perhaps or clawed. It will not just stand there and let you poke at it. This is what I mean by a pragmatic view. You must find the way forward. You must find the way being guided by the Greater Truth, but the Greater Truth does not necessarily poke fun. It does not assert its correctness. It does not assert its rightness. It finds a way of fulfilling itself without provoking, yes? Can you understand this?

Q: The politicians think that they should have kept a closer eye on Russia.

Hai: All the time your countries interfere with each other in ignorance. If they were less ignorant; if they took the trouble to understand each other, then these things would not come to pass. But it is not about rightness; it is about treating each other correctly. It is about seeing the broad picture, the greater span, the greater truth, and finding how we can arrive there. It is not about asserting limited relative truth.

Q: It's hard to come to terms with that with countries like China who don't even seem to have basic human rights.

Hai: They have come on a long journey, the people of China. You expect too much of them.

Q: That's what they say.

Hai: Therefore you must wait. You must encourage; you must praise where praise is due, but you must encourage rather than using the stick. For they are not as you are; their history is not as you have had. They have their own history, their own background, and their own culture. It is not their way to be democratic in their history or culture. You cannot expect this of them at this point of the proceedings, but democracy will come. Yet is this democracy of which you speak not a relative thing? For you do not have it, even in your own countries. Therefore, someone from a faraway planet would come to you and scoff at your democracy. (Laughs). Yes?

Q: People say that China never does anything voluntarily and only improve things when they know that if they don't they will be penalised by the rest of the world in some way. So one view is that the world does have to keep pushing them all the time. Is that true Hai?

Hai: You must push but not in a critical way. Rather in an encouraging way, in a showing way.

Q: What's the alternative? If you liberalise everything in one go you would have the same thing that happened in Russia in the 1990's.

Hai: You would have chaos. You would have disintegration of society; it must take time. You have seen what has come about in the country you call Iraq? It has been destabilised. This is not to say that what was, was good; not to say that things will not get better. But for the moment it is destabilised.