Tranquil Spirit, Northwich, Cheshire, UK - Spirit Communications: Spirit Realms

Spirit Communications through Trance Mediumship/Channeling:

Spirit Realms

We have a very great variety of spirit communicators who come through, who have had very varying beliefs and occupations when last on the earth plane. Some also had very privileged lives. Others lived in more humble circumstances. They all have stories to tell from which we can learn. One night we were joined by a spirit who was called John. He had been a blacksmith in his previous earthly life:

John: Ah lass. My name is John. Jonathan is my Sunday name. You not got many here tonight. Beacon not so bright, but bright enough.

(The spirits are always telling us that each time we sit we send up a beacon of light which can be seen in the Spirit World.)

Q: Have you been before?

John: No, I've not been before. Been looking at yer. Oh, I been inviting yer. But I've not talked to yer. I've looked from the side lines. Your group's little tonight.

Q: What did you do while you were an earth John?

John: I was a blacksmith hammering the iron.

Q: Did you enjoy your work?

John: Aye, it had a ring to it. But I enjoyed working the iron.

John explained that he was in touch with his family who were also in the Spirit World.

Q: When you meet with your family in the Spirit World do you get together in a house?

John: Aye we sometimes do, but you know, we do not need these dwellings for coming together, for we could come together anywhere, but we sometimes come together in our dwellings, out of habit, if you like, out of routine, if you like, but we don't need them. But we like to come together, like to come together with other folks too.

Q: Do you all gather together grandchildren and great grandchildren as well?

John: The gathering can change, can vary, depending upon the need at the time. It is not important. The most important thing is the love we have for each other. You don't need to always be gettin together, because you have this love for each other, because you can express it in so many ways, can't you? So you don't need to come together all the time. But we know we are in each others' thoughts and we may connect with each other from time to time and know that we are in each others' thoughts and there is nothing to substitute for this. It's not something your used to in the earth plane of course, but we have this up here. It is a marvelous gift, the knowledge that we are in each others' thoughts.

Q: I am surprised that people might not need each others' presence. It sounds like it could be quite a lonely life at times?

John: I don't know where you're coming from lass. The main thing is that you are in contact with people and you enjoy the contact, enjoy knowing the contact, enjoy experiencing the contact. What's your problem with this lass?

Q: Well you said that there was no need to get together with your family?

John: There is no need. They're not in my mind like some "poppet picking" (?) folk you know. It is just that we know there is the connection. It is like you with your telephones. Though you have your telephones and you can talk to people to your heart's content. But you wouldna dream of saying that well: "I can speak on the telephone so why bother seeing them again". You would not say that would you? And so it is with us. We can have this direct contact in our minds but we also like to experience each other more direct, face to face, so to speak.

Q: Is there an extra warmth within that face to face?

John: Ay, ay, you could say that, because there is a close proximity. There is a close feeling which goes somewhat like your close feeling when you meet someone face to face.

Q: I've heard this before and thought it must be quite lonely if you don't need to see people.

John: But you're not lonely, because you know people are in touch with you and you are in touch with them. So you can't be lonely. You can never be lonely here lass like you can be lonely on your land.

Q: But if you are only in touch with them in thought?

John: Well if you were a prisoner in some prison somewhere on your land you could feel very isolated couldn't yer? You could feel very lonely. Only the jailor to talk to. So you feel very lonely. If you could send out a thought, a thought to someone special and they in their turn are able to return your thought with feelings and thoughts of their own, you would not feel so isolated or lonely then would you lass? And so it with us. You cannot feel lonely here. There is a bond, a connection with all, a bond and connection with those you wish to have a bond and connection with. But there's still the want to get together sometimes, because it is as he ses, you feel a special closeness, a special feeling of closeness, when you're up front with someone.

Q: You would still want to do things with other spirits though, like work with them or go for a walk?

John: Well, within the rules.(Laughter).

Q: Well, what work do you do in the spirit world?

John: Well I don't hammer in the irons for sure. They've got no need of them horses here, though there are horses, but they don't need shoes because the ground is soft. It don't wear the hooves down anyway. Ay, so I don't need me hammer. I miss that sometimes you know, working the hammer. Ye I do miss it sometimes, but I would not trade with what I've got now for going back to work with the hammer. Anyway, even if I where to return to your world now, the chances of me using the hammer would not be too good I suspect.

Q: Do you have any plans to come back to earth?

John: No, not really, but who knows, I might have to in the future, but I ain't got no plans for the moment.

Q: Do people in your world generally accept rebirth?

John: They don't know you know. They don't know. They ain't not sure for they not had experience of it. They can't remember or not had experience of people going to rebirth. They not always sure about it. I know this may sound odd to you, but you see, you come here with your fixed ideas and people make the events around them, their experiences, fit these ideas. It's one of those things you carry forward to the spirit world. There is a lot you leave behind with your earthly ways and your bodies, but with your minds it's different. You create your mental frameworks and you bring them with you here and you try and make things fit into them still, until you learn to let them go. Ay tis like if I were to work the iron on my anvil and create a special shape. It becomes a rigid thing doesn't it? Rigid, hard thing. And so it is with your mind. Sometimes you create a rigid hard thing in your mind with your ideas or your minds, your framework in your mind and that then becomes a prison to ye as sure as the bars of that prison I mentioned a few minutes ago to you.

Ah well, I thing I have outworn my time and I'm going to have to go. I thank you for your time and your company.

Someone in our Home Circle asked the following question about the "Darker Realms":

Q: How few or many souls are in the darker realms?

Hai: There are many, there are many. But these realms are relative also so we could say it is like shades of rainbow in sense. This may sound funny talking about rainbow when talking about darker realms, but if you look at shades of rainbow the shades are gradations are they not, of colours, and colours run into other colours and it is a bit like that with darker realms, like if you could put finger into rainbow and at certain point you would see certain number of people. You look in another grade of rainbow you see another realm of people. So it is like these realms are not graded exactly, but they are dimensions within dimensions, do you understand me? So there are many, but the extent of their depth to which they are in these darker, deeper regions varies enormously.

Q: If people go over to your world with what we feel is an atrocity, but they have done this with the very best of intentions, perhaps for their religion, for God, does that affect where they end up?

Hai: Yes, because they have already ended up where they will end up. You understand me? There is nothing magical that happens at the moment of death. What they have done has already determined where they will be, what they will be. It is what they are which is reflecting what they will be in spirit lands. Therefore, people may do things in good faith, as you say, but even doing things in good faith, the process which has brought them to this decision, reflects an inharmony in their thinking, in their heart, in their compassion. It reflects a weakness, a defect within themselves that they have reached such decisions. So, even "in good faith", the process by which they reached their decision indicates a weakness, a defect which must be corrected, which must be grown out of, which must be transformed. But apart from this, also there are the consequences of their actions. For even if it was possible to say: "Ah, he acted, she acted, in good faith", and we could put aside the matter of intent, even so they would have to make amends, to remedy the wrongs, the pain, the discomfort, the injury which their actions have brought upon others. You understand me?

Q: If someone has committed murder and was in prison for a very long time?

Hai: This has not remedied the harm of their decision. But they may have turned around within their mind, within their heart. This turning around is a massive step in the right direction, a massive transformation sometimes. But the fact of this transformation will also lead them to feel the pain of the harm which they have inflicted on others and would lead them to wish to right wrong, to remedy their actions, to remedy the consequences which they have caused and in some cases these people will deliberately seek out a way to put right, to make amends, to remedy what they have done through service of a particular type perhaps in the spirit world.

Q: Do they remedy that with their victims in the spirit world?

Hai: It may be with their victim, but it may be persons who have undergone similar wrongs to them, pain inflicted upon them. It may also be with souls who commit these wrongs, that these souls try to influence them to make them see aright before they do wrong

Q: Someone has died recently, Myra Hindley, who has caused a lot of harm to others. Will she need to put that right in the spirit world?

Hai: Yes they can continue their actions to put things right.

Q: The conversation has become a bit serious.

Hai: It is serious, but it is hopeful also. There is always hope.

Q: You have talked about the densities of the spirit planes, but in the darker realms is there density there?

Hai: This is another density, another system of energy.

Q: Is it heavier than the earth density?

Hai: No it is not. It is not in this sense. You must be aware that when we speak or when you speak of dense energy we may mean this, understand this, in different ways. Your energy system is more dense in physical sense. It is like if you could spread out the molecules of your body they would be less dense, yes? But if you pull them together in the format you are they are more dense, yes? This is one form of denseness. But if we speak of the denseness of the lower realms we speak of a different matter, a different matter, yes. It is a more focussed, inward looking, inclusive of self energy. It is difficult to explain this to you, but it is like an energy turned on itself. It is as if... I can give you one example. It is as if the energy of the sun radiates out its warmth and light, yes, without distinction, without discrimination, without bias, without prejudice, yes? These concepts themselves are of no significance, no understanding to the sun. It radiates out on all without conjecture, without thought, yes, without hope of return, without any thought of self, yes? In some ways we may liken this to the pure spiritual soul which radiates out their love to all without prejudice, without discrimination and so on, in the way I have just described, yes? But if we were to take this energy of the sun, this energy of the sun was turned within itself, was focused and inverted, turned around upon itself, within itself, the sun would not warm anyone, yes? And so we have something which is approximating what we speak of when we speak of the lower realms and those in the lower realms. Their energy is turned in on themselves and this is not natural; this is not healthy. It is the opposite of loving compassion. You understand?

Spirit communication between different realms:

Q: I was thinking about the different levels of the spirit world and wondering if, whatever level you and Davia are on, would you still be able to communicate with us?

Hai: Yes we may still communicate with you. We are able to transcommunicate accross different levels, different planes of spirit world and your planes also. We are able to bridge the gaps, the dimensions across time and space, in order to reach you. So this not a problem for us.

Q: I just wondered whether, when you reached the top, you would still be able to communicate.

Hai: Reach the top? (Laughter).

Q: Is it the 7th level?

Hai: We have difficulty when we move on to more refined, more nebulous levels, this is true. But, within constraints, we are able to attempt communication with you. I am able on my level to communicate with you and many other dimensions, many other levels, planes. Therefore this not big problem for me.

Q: I wondered whether, even if you are able, you wouldn't get permission to do so?

Hai: No not about permission, not about permission. Tis about conditions, tis about ability, skills, ability to adapt, to refine self, own vibration, to enable engagement with other realms, other spheres, other levels. No policeman waving hand to stop me.

Q: I had thought that perhaps you were not allowed once you had gone so far?

Hai: No, it more to do with level of refinement, rairified condition. This make it more difficult sometimes to return to energy levels of other planes, to operate in energy levels of other planes. Sometimes more difficult.

Q: Is it as much that other spirits may not want to move around so much?

Hai: This true, this true. They are cut off. They are participating in the new realm, in the other more rairified, realm, this is true. And therefore their attention, their interest, is more locked into this realm than on previous realms they may have travelled through. But those who have deep love, deep afinity for other realms from which they have progressed, can more easily retain ability to travel across the dimensions. Like if you retain skill, you develop skill, you keep skill, yes? But if you put your skill to one side you become rusty. It falls out of use, it becomes difficult. It is more in the nature of this. We like to visit you and your realm.

Q: Why is that Hai?

Hai: We have deep karma towards your realm. We have deep attachment towards your realm.

Q: The desire to help?

Hai: Yes and to share.

Mandy from London asked the following questions:

- When infants/babies die do they live on in the spirit world in the same form as when they passed, or do they grow into adults?
- What happens to a baby that dies before it is born eg: miscarriage or via termination? Do they go across to the spirit world or not?

Hai has spoken to us on many occasions about these issues and we have given some extracts from his comments during a number of discussions. In essence he reminds us that first and foremost we are all spiritual beings so the spirit of a baby that dies, from whatever cause and whether still in the womb or not, will go to the Spirit Land. What happens from that point on seems to vary according to the needs of the spirit. Though it can be hard for us, Hai bids us to view these spirits and indeed all spirits from the perspective of a broader love. We perform a time-limited role even for those sons and daughters who are with us throughout a lifetime. However, roles change but love endures throughout all these changes.

Q: At what point does the spirit enter the womb?

Hai: This can vary somewhat. Usually when conception has taken place a spirit will see an opportunity and will link to the feotus, but will not necessarily enter the body at that point, but wait sometime before joining with the physical body. There is no need to join very early, but there is some variation in the actual time when the spirit joins the physical. It is not too important about the actual time and point the spirit joins the physical, because once the spirit has formed a bond with the physical a bond is formed with the natuaral parents also. The actual point which the spirit joins the body is not too important. Its importance can be exagerated. It is important, though, that, once conception has taken place life is viable and new life is starting to form. Therefore, it is important that life is acknowledged as having sanctity. We know that not all life which has been conceived achieves birth in the physical world and there are many reasons for this. People sometimes make difficult decisions. Intent is important, but in principle, once life is conceived it should progress to birth.

Q: Do spirits sometimes enter a body to try out the experience and then leave again possibly to re-enter again later?

Hai: It may be that in the early stages a spirit may enter the embryo and move out later. The bond is still malleable, if you like. It is not fixed. But generally there is no need for spirit to try out the physical body because they would be well aware of what they were entering before they entered.

Q: When does conception actually take place?

Hai: Conception take place when egg meets sperm.

Q: Before it goes into the womb?

Hai: Ah yes.

Q: At what stage would a spirit enter?

Hai: Usually some time after, but once conception takes place a spirit may identify with the egg and the potential for new life.

Q: Is it about seven months before the spirit enters the embryo or earlier?

Hai: It will usually be earlier, but the spirit may come and go a bit while the egg is still developing. But all life is sacred. When conception take place there is potential for life. We must respect this. We must respect this.

Q: It seems then that there is no set time for spirit to enter the womb and in fact it can come and go as it desires?

Hai: Spirit may already have formed a bond with the fertilized egg very early on. There is no fixed point, but as the embryo develops, the association between the spirit and embryo grows stronger and stronger and the potential is there, the potential for a spirit life lived in the human form. When the spirit has embraced the embryo a bond with the mother has formed. This is what I would say to you.

Q: So even if the spirit is not in situ the bond is there anyway?

Hai: Yes. The spirit may enter the womb, may enter the embryo and reside there or it may withraw again, but yet preserve a connection with the embryo and return.

Q: What would happen in the event of a miscarriage? Would the spirit still be attached to the mother, spiritually I mean?

Hai: Well, when there is miscarriage spirit must return to the spirit lands obviously. But after that it depends on a number of things. Sometimes they may stay in spirit lands, for a time at least. Sometimes they will find another body, for they have the need of earthly experience.

Q: Would the spirit foetus continue to develop in the spirit world as would any other child?

Hai: No, not necessarily. For there has been no life experience whatsoever with the case of a miscarriage and the spirit may have need of a life experience. And so, if this is the case, the spirit may well find another body.

Q: I have always believed that women had the right to abort a child if necessary and that men did not have the right to try and prevent this?

Hai: Well, we know you have circumstances. We know you have difficulties. We know you have trials, tribulations, which you face on the earth plane. For we do not judge. But it is something which must not be undertaken lightly.

Q: Would the physical effects of birth have an impact on the spiritual development of a baby?

Hai: All experiences you have while on the earth plane contribute to your development and to your spiritual development. You cannot separate the two. You are of your essence spiritual beings and you have many experiences while on the earth plane. Some of these affect your physical development and growth, but inevitably, they also impact upon your spiritual development and growth. The two cannot be separated.

Q: So would a baby in the womb be affected by the emotional state of the mother?

Hai: This may occur. Because the physical condition of the mother may affect the physical condition of the daughter or the son while in the womb. But you know we have spoken before of the influence of inheritence, of genetics. We put on this cloak of this body and, as part of this experience, we experience the world in a certain way because of the body which we have incarnated into. But when this life is over we put aside our cloak when we return to the spirit land. Some time later we may reincarnate, rebirth, into another body, another cloak. So we put on a new cloak and experience the world in a different way through this cloak till we put it to one side again.

On a recent night the discussion with Hai focused on the realms of the Spirit World, travel between them and the subject of enlightenment. The conversation started with someone asking Hai if he had been busy and what he had been doing:

Hai: We've been busy commuting between realms.

Q: Do you get a calling to go to these realms or do you just go of your own free will?

Hai: Yes there is a schedule. But we may also have unexpected appointments

Q: With these unexpected appointments, if you for some reason you couldn't travel to that particular realm, could you just communicate with your mind or would you have to actually go to the realm?

Hai: We could communicate with mind but it is not as effective as being there. But you are right, we can communicate with mind. But it is something like your own conversation. It is better than that, but still it is not as good as being there.

Q: So all these matters you deal with, is it something personal or is it political, if politics exist in the Spirit World?

Hai: No, it's not political. It can be about matters, matters of concern which need deciding, not just personal matters.

Q: So is it like a Council?

Hai: It is of some similarity to a Council.

Q: Would it be you and others?

Hai: Me and others who would discuss and deliberate over the issue.

Q: So would each of these deliberators have a field of experience or a field of expertise?

Hai: Well, we have a field of expertise which we share. It is not limited to a particular function, but rather it is a function, a skill, an ability which we share in common.

Q: So as well as a Council do you act as an enabler to draw people together to make things happen?

Hai: Yes we may call upon people to come together for particular purposes, who are concerned with these issues, who wish to contribute, who wish to help. We would call upon them to assist with these situations.

Q: Do these situations come about because there isn't a harmony or because there needs to be a change?

Hai: They come about because of varying conditions. They sometimes come about because of changes going on, changes in the vibrational harmony or interchange between the different worlds, the worlds of spirit or the worlds of earth and universe. Therefore we must monitor these vibrational interchanges and make adjustments as is necessary, as is desirable, to regain the balance.

Q: Well that must be a very sensitive issue, because quite often you can make a decision and what comes from that can be many things, as it has a knock on effect down the line.

Hai: Yes, yes, it does indeed. It is like karma, making decision and reaping consequences of that decision. Throwing stone into lake, ripples are endless.

Q: Are there any realms that you can't travel to?

Hai: There are many realms of existence but within these many realms of existence there is only the One Essence which we have spoke of before. Therefore, when we speak of travelling between realms we speak of travelling between one illusion to another for the fundamental basis, the root of all these realms is the One Mind and there can therefore not be any travelling between realms. But we speak of travelling between realms as a way, a means, an expression of expediency. But the realms are not so different for they partake of the One Essence. If you speak of travelling between realms there are no realms where I cannot travel, but this is not the whole story. But I cannot find words to express the fullness of meaning beyond this.

It is like if we think about the mighty ocean as symbolising the One Mind. If we think about how islands, continents may be formed, may be pushed up from the mighty ocean, we may compare these land masses as realms of spirit and we may talk of traveling between these realms of spirit, these land masses, these islands, these continents, yes? We may speak of traveling between them. But there is potential for more land forms, more islands to come out from the sea of the One Mind. Because the creative process is ever creative it knows no limitations. So to speak of travelling between all realms is only a relative affair, for they have no absolute existence, they have no absolute unique fundamental existence. For they are dependent and have their origin in and their essence is at one with the One Mind. But other realms may materialise, so to speak, from within the One Mind, its Essence. Therefore, to speak of traveling between all realms you must be at one with the One Mind. For in this sense alone only can you speak of being a realm traveller of fundamental ability.

Q: I find it interesting that the One Mind is constantly changing, developing and evolving then.

Hai: Nothing stands still but the One Mind is Changeless. It is not developing in its fundamental essence. For in its fundamental essence It is at quietude, at stillness, in the Changeless Now. But in its expression of Itself, in Its manifestation of Itself in the spirit and physical realms, It is ever creative, It is ever manifesting change. It is the great paradox beyond which we must leap to be enlightened.

Q: Perhaps one day.

Hai: One day assuredly. One day assuredly.

Q: Do you think enlightenment will just come purely through experience or just through meditation or a combination of many things?

Hai: It will just come when its ready to come. What you speak of may help it to come, may help the apple to ripen that it be ready to fall from tree. But it come when it come.

Q: So could you literally be maybe in the middle of cooking the tea and suddenly have this revelation?

Hai: Yes.

Q: So from what you said in previous conversations, it would change everything but nothing, Enlightenment?

Hai: It would change your perception of yourself and your perception of your world and your perception of the Essence of things. And is this not something to think on? But we have said before that this is only beginning, only start. For this insight, this awakening, this enlightenment, must then be translated, interpreted, into your everyday life.

Q: I suppose that would be hard because you would have to adjust every way of thinking and the way you do things wouldn't you?

Hai: But fundamental insight help you in this. For if you have fundamental insight you naturally want to change things to be in accordance with it. But still hard work.

Q: Do you think somebody receiving enlightenment might suddenly decide to sell up their home and live an almost nomadic life?

Hai: It is possible but not necessary, for they must live in world still. That has not changed.

Q: Would you know that you had received enlightenment Hai?

Hai: You would know. You would know because it would bring about revolution within your mind and heart. You do not question coldness of stream when you plunge hand into mountain stream in winter.

WB tells us that he was a scientist when he last lived on the earth and that he lived in Scotland. He has carried on his scientific interests in the spirit world and this is part of his work with our spirit group.

Q: As a scientific person on the earth plane would you have believed you would have been in the position you are in now?

WB: I will admit to being sceptical when on the earth plane. I think I have indicated before that, while I was sure of what awaited me on my demise, I was still somewhat pleasantly surprised by the events which followed to find myself in my present surroundings.

Q: So I suppose you where delighted to be able to continue in a scientific vein?

WB: Indeed and I have the advantage now of course. I can access an even wider view; a wider view indeed!

Q: The Halls of Learning? Hai has indicated that you only have access to information when you are ready to receive it. But when we talk about the history of the world and our own country, would that be accessible to anyone who wanted it?

WB: Factual information of this nature is obviously more easily and readily avaiable because its significance, while interesting to the individual, is not dangerous to the individual, in the sense that it is unlikely to cause personal turmoil, unless the person was directly involved in the events themselves.

Chung Ching: It gives them the bigger picture of the situation they are in when on the earth. (Another member of the Home Circle has been developing trance and a spirit called Chung Ching, who lived in the same monastery as Hai, has been contributing to discussions.)

WB: But there is some supervision of this, in case they had access to too much information which had a personal impact on them, because of their involvment, perhaps. There is obviously a right time for this to happen. So there would be some supervision, some guidence, over this matter.

Q: Would information on other realms be witheld?

WB: Some information you may need in order to evolve, as painful as it may be....
You are trying to attune to me sir. (to another member of the group.)

Q: Yes, I just saw (clairvoyantly) all sorts of strange devices which I don't understand.

WB: You have seen my workshop on my earthly plane. It was a rather untidy place, I admit, which will come as no surprise to you, as I lacked the benefit of feminine supervision, which is a merit you have been discussing. I will not engage the gentlmen present in response to this. (Laughter). But I was rather untidy, yes.

Q: But I presume you achieved what you wanted to achieve?

WB: Untidyness you mean? (Laughter). I was able to do the experiments which were necessary and bring them to a reasonably satisfactory conclusion. Yes, just so.

Q: You must have been absorbed for hours and hours?

WB: I was indeed! Absorbed is the word for it, to the detriment, as I have indicated before, of other aspects of my life, not least the desirability of feminine company and other relationships 

One night a spirit called James came through and visitors had a discussion with him about the Spirit World and some of his own experiences.

James: I am very pleased to visit you.

Q: Have you spoken in this way before?

James: Yes, I am used to talking to people in this way.

Q: Some people have difficulty.

James: It comes with practice. But once you have achieved your practice you may gain your certificate (with humour) and you may find it relatively easy to come through. It is a matter of slipping in unawares you see. Slipping in subtly, quietly, unawares. Linking, blending with the energies of the physical body and the mind. I am very at home in this. It is not a problem to me. I am equally at home with this as I am in the Spirit World. I have regularly spoken through various mediums, various people in this form. It's practice makes perfect and so it becomes more easy to adapt to the ever varying plethora of forms of minds of mediums, of physical constitutions. If you practice in this way you become more adaptable and you achieve a greater range of possibilities without discomfort.

Q: What is your favourite activity in the spirit world?

James: Strolling through the spirit world and taking in the sights and the scenes and indeed the beautiful people in the spirit world. Beautiful buildings, beautiful landscapes, beautiful invigorating air which feels like it is filling your lungs with energy, energisation. It is a beautiful experience just wandering through. In fact you know, you feel at times that is all you need to do in life; just walk through the Spirit Lands, just taking in the scenes, taking in the sounds, the sights and breathing in the air, the energising air.

Q: Do you meet interesting people on these journeys?

James: You are sure to meet interesting people. I met a young woman only the other day, quite by chance, who was an enchanting soul and we talked about our experiences upon the earth plane and we exchanged our experiences which we had had on the earth plane and reflected upon them. And it was most convivial, most enjoyable, most experiential. There is no shortage of interesting people to meet as you take your promenade.

Q: Do you live near the sea? (Laughter) (Eileen has a wish to meet a spirit who lives near the sea in the Spirit Land. All the spirits who have come through so far have not lived near the sea)

James: I do not live near the sea. I fear this may be becoming a Davia joke to drag out indefinitely in your quest for someone from the sea shore. (Laughter). But I too have seen the sea of course. I visit the sea most often. It is a most pleasant experience to visit and see the sea; its energising waves, its beautiful swirls of water energy; beautiful swirls of clouds also over the sea surface. But these are clouds of creative imagination, creative form, creative imagery, rather than your clouds which deposit their rain on your head.

Q: I wondered if the sea is really as beautiful as other spirits have indicated?

James: The sea is a beautiful sea. You cannot drown in the sea. You can enter the sea and it is perfectly safe. It will buoy you up. It will leave you on it's surface. It will not harm you. It will not let you go. It will not let you drown.

Q: Why don't any of the other spirits who come though seem to live near the sea?

James: (With humour) Davia will know what is in your thoughts, your desires and the more you want someone from the sea to come through the more he will tantalise you by not sending that person.

Q: Do you live in the country?

James: I do, but I certainly visit the "hubub" on a daily basis.(the group has christened the Spirit World's nearest approximation to a town or city as the "hubub") Indeed I like a bit of activity from time to time. I like a bit of "hubub". I like a bit of life going on around me.

Q: What did you do during your life on the earth plane?

James: I certainly did some painting, of the sea in fact. I used to paint scenes of the sea. I used to paint scenes of the summer flowers. I enjoyed the sea. It was a hobby though you know. I remember painting the sun flowers in France once. They are so symbolic of the summer energy are they not? Summer energy. So bold, brazen almost. Such a statement of life, of energy, of beauty, of boldness. There are qualities, are there not, which we can emulate in these flowers? Qualities of the earth. We may emulate these qualities to good effect if we would read them and take them into ourselves and express them. There are lessons to be learnt here in the forms of the earth and the forms of creation. We may take these to ourselves and use them to good effect and display them in our character. They are symbolic for us at times of great advancement within our souls. Great sources of strength.

Q: Do you have anything with you from the earth plane?

James: I have a little box, a little ornament you understand. But it was of strong sentimental value to me. A lot of associations with love. It was a gift you see. I valued it for this reason. Where we have these associations with love and our objects, our artifacts, are imbued with this love, or the memory of this love, they have a special meaning for us and we may wish, choose, to have them represented with us in our spiritual life.

Q: I thought "you can't take it with you when you go".

James: Oh well you can you see. You can with some things at any rate.

Q: I have a ring which is very special to me.

James: You will be able to take the duplicate and the duplicate is as much the real thing as the real thing. They are of one essence.

One night we were visited by a an0ther spirit called James and people present asked him questions on the theme of how spirits learn from reflecting upon their previous earth life once in the Spirit World.

Q: Since your transition to the spirit world have you learnt a lot?

James: I have indeed learnt a lot. I have learnt a lot in many measures because of reflecting on my experiences within the earthly plane. It is rather like you know, yes, it is rather like you know your camels and your camels have one hump or two humps. But the important thing about their humps, which I wish to bring to your attention, is that they store water, do they not in the form of fat? They store water they store nourishment, they store good sustenance and it is a bit like that, you see, when you come to the spirit world. Because it is like you have stored your human experience in your hump and you come to the spirit lands and you may draw upon this hump, this wealth of experience and reflect upon it ad nauseam and learn from it ad nauseam. It is like a reservoir of learning which you can revisit again and again and again and draw ever new lessons and development from it.

Q: Does this 'hump' hold just the precious lifetime or all life times which have taken place on earth?

James: Well, the most significant is the most recent lifetime, but you may also access previous lifetimes. But you may also have already fully explored the "hump" of these other life times on previous experiences within the spirit world. It may be that you have already exhausted your learning from these other "humps" as you put it.

Q: Do you have to review this by yourself?

James: You often reflect by yourself, but it is most common to receive assistance in this matter from kindly souls who are around you, who may seek you out even, to assist you.

Q: Is that a very painful experience?

James: It can be extremely painful of course. Of course it depends on the actual situation, the actual experience which you are reviewing at the time. But it can be emotionally tiring and disturbing. But you have so much help and sustenance around you, so much support around you, you are not left to suffer quietly. You are not left to suffer needlessly. For the suffering is a spur to learning, to growth, and this is the main purpose of the experience; that you may grow and develop, not for the purpose of merely of suffering. But sometimes we need to suffer in order to achieve a deep revolution within our centre. A deep turning, a revolution to the truth and love. But there is ready assistance as we have said.

Q: So is that the point where you decide to come back to earth?

James: You may decide to come back. You may even decide to come back before you have fully exploited and exhausted the reservoir of the "hump", but you may equally stay on in the spirit world and pursue some other occupation. I personally have chosen to stay within the spirit worlds and to explore my potential within this context.

Q: Do you have a particular function in the spirit world?

James: It is not possible to be a "drain on the state" so to speak, in that by our very existence we serve a purpose. By our encounters with others we serve a purpose. But you speak of roles. But I do not speak of definitive roles. I have several roles which express themselves when circumstance dictates.

Q: Can you tell us a bit more about your roles?

James: I do help people in reflecting upon their previous life and experiences in an informal way, in a friendly way, in a supportive way. And ,of course, by doing this it is sometimes useful to share your own life experiences and previous experiences with them. To share these also and to enter into a comradeship and state of empathy with each other. It is all the more supportive then if this feeling of empathy can be developed between the souls. And I do my painting here of course, in my own fashion, and I have several roles as I say which are informally pursued.

Q: When people decide to reflect on their previous life do they do it at their own pace, in their own time?

James: Yes assuredly, they do it at their own pace in their own time.

Q: So is it possible for someone to be in the spirit world for hundreds or even thousands of years and not begin to explore that?

James: It would be unusual for such a long period of "time" to elapse, relative of course because you know the difficulty we have with your time. But it would be rare for someone to expand such a number of years before reviewing the reservoir of experience within themselves. If such a period of time elapsed it would be indicative of someone in the lower realms who was stuck, who cannot review their own life experience in a productive fashion without first moving onwards into another realm of the spirit lands. But there are many souls, as you know, who are in the lower realms who are stuck, indeed who are not capable, who do not have the opportunity to review their experience within these realms. Who indeed, just to the contrary, are often stuck in the experiences and habits of their physical life and perpetuate the difficulties they associate with them. A readiness to change, an openness to learning, is all that is required. But some are not open and some are not ready to learn.

Q: For the average spirit who doesn't go to the darker realms is it possible to give some idea in our time?

James: No, this would be variable. If you talk about the starting time for this, if you talk about the length of time it would take to dwell, to process the experience which they have carried with them. All of this is variable depending on the individual's soul and the individual's circumstance. 

Harmony in the Spirit Lands

Q: Is there only harmony on your side?

Hai: It depends where you are. The spiritual lands are many. There are many realms, as there are many countries on your plane. There is not harmony in every realm across the realms. There are realms which are peopled, populated, by those who have wavered from the path of love. There is not harmony there in that realm. The realms vary to the degree they manifest the harmony, to the degree they reflect deep love, which is our essence. We do not change merely because we move to the spiritual lands, the spiritual realms. We carry with us what is in our hearts on the earth plane and manifest it on the spiritual. The realms are without the same restraints and heaviness of the physical world. At least most of them are. But some of the realms have there own heaviness, because of the conditions which are created by the minds and hearts of those who people them and are attracted to them. Loving hearts create harmony. Nothing else, nothing else. 

We are Drawn to to Particular Realms of the Spirit World

Q: It would seem that the spirit world could be more or less what you wanted it to be. Is that correct?

Hai: The thought form which we can create in the Spirit Land is affected by our wishes, our beliefs, our desires. The Spirit World can be shaped to an extent by our own wishes, our desires. We also gravitate to that aspect of the Spirit Worlds, the realms, which we are drawn to, which have an affinity to our own thinking, our own wishes. So in general terms we will be attracted to that part of the Spirit World where we will feel at home. I don't mean to say "at home" will always be comfortable, because "at home" simply means the place we are drawn to, if you follow me. So those who inhabit the darker regions are drawn there. They are "at home" there. But we may also affect are immediate environment, our immediate surroundings, through our own thought processes, our own desires. So this can modify and enhance or deprecate the immediate surroundings depending on our own state of mind. 

Peter from Chester in England asked a question about our ability to participate in creating things in the Spirit Lands

Q: Hai has said we come to the earthly plain to learn lessons and that we also have lessons to learn in the spirit realm. I have been reading recently that in spirit one of the lessons we have to learn is that of creation: that is using our energy, focusing our energy to create simple life forms and simple rock structures? Is this true and what purpose would it serve?

Hai: Yes, it is true in a sense, to an extent. But we all participate, we are all of the Creative Mind, we are all of the Creative Force. We are all "chips off the old block" if you wish. We are all part of the One Mind and the One Mind is all creative. It has the seeds of all possibilities. It has the womb of all possibilities. Therefore it is all creative. We as aspects of the One Mind are also creative. We partake of Its power. We partake of Its creative force. Therefore, when it comes to the Spirit Lands we are able to tap into or rather to manifest this creative force to an extent, in some ways in the Spirit Lands. We are able to shape, to create things out of energy. But it is rather that we shape, we form, and we manipulate the energies to create form.

Yet you too also on your earthly plane can be viewed in this way to an extent. For when you create your gardens you shape the energies in a sense. You cultivate your seeds, your plants. You plant them, you nurture them, and you bring them to fullness, to fruition. In a sense this is also participating in the creative force. Though you are only tending the seed nevertheless you are participating in the creative activity. But we participate in greater measure when we are living in the Spirit Lands.

Q: Peter refers to life forms so by that do you mean all forms are life forms?

Hai: Yes all forms are life forms. In the final analysis all forms are life forms. All forms partake of the One Consciousness. In some forms this Consciousness is dormant, not actively expressed, but yet it is partaking still of the Consciousness of the One Mind.

Q: Is this what you've been telling us anyway but the question is expressed in a different way?

Hai: It is a different manifestation of how to present it, yes.

Q: What about the rocks? I don't understand that. Is this the scenery and coastline that Davia tells us we can create to our own liking?

Hai: You may create forms within the lands in which we live. We have to learn to use this gift, this ability, wisely with due respect to what is around us; with due attention to what is around us. All is thought, all is energy my friends, all is Consciousness. You in your world have come to view things too much in a physical way in the sense that you see things as separate from each other in your ordinary everyday senses. This is part of life in the physical world and yet even these objects in the physical world are not like this in essence. In reality they are not like this. Because all is interlinked. All is linked together with one another. There is no separateness anywhere to be found in your plane or ours or anywhere else.

Observation and judgement. Is "judgement day" a reality?

At the start of the meditation and psychic development sessions which we run at our home there is usually an opportunity to ask some general questions of Hai or one of the other spirits. On a particular night two members attending a session asked the following questions.

Paul: Can you help me to understand the difference between observation and judgment of external things?

Hai: Observation is merely observing. It is watching the passing show, the passing environment, and the passing scene. It is recognising it. It is being at one with it, but without passing judgement, without classifying, without categorising, without valuing this way or that. Therefore, if we are able to observe in this natural way, to be at one with what we see and where we are, yet without being attached to it, without judging it, without evaluating and analysing it, this itself is a discipline for enlightenment. But if we are constantly categorising, evaluating, judging, the splitting things one from the other, then this is not skilful in terms of enlightenment. You must make judgments of course in your daily lives. The judging faculty is there for you to make use of, but it must be recognised as a tool and not the repository of Truth. It is a device, which can be skilfully employed or not so skilfully employed. But it must be used provisionally. For in making our judgments, our evaluations, and our opinions we may be in error of course. We can go ary in our judgments. Therefore we must be careful in making them. We must use our tool cautiously and wisely and review its use constantly.

This prompted another member to ask a question about the idea of "Judgement Day".

Janet: When we go to the spirit lands and have our day of judgment........

Hai interrupted by shaking his head

Hai: No.

Janet: Is that a farce then, Hai?

Hai: (Smiling). It is not a farce. It is not real. It is not a day of judgment. You will re-evaluate your life, Janet, when you go to the spirit world and there can be others who will assist you if you wish, but it is not like a day of judgment. This image that people have been given is wrong, is in error. It is unhelpful, is false, and is primitive. You have been given this image, some of you, in your early life; but you have been given an image of Jesus with the good on his one hand and the wicked on the other. This is a simplification beyond simplification. It is unhelpful; it is unwise; it is not valid.

Yet we all must evaluate our lives. We must evaluate our development, our evolvement and this there is opportunity to do in a plentiful way. But it is self-evaluation as we have said before. It is looking within. It is looking at the unfoldment of our lives and making our own assessment. If we do not make a completely accurate assessment then we will have help to hand to help us with that and then if we still do not make an accurate assessment there will be karmic lessons to learn that we may achieve understanding. But not to wield the rod, but to help us (smiling) with grandmotherly kindness, to learn, to understand, to grow, to develop.

Dale asked a question about working in the darker realms.

Q: I believe I have been trained all my life to go down to Darker planes and help the trapped spirits there; for instance getting them to realise they have died so they can start moving upwards. I have no real reason to doubt that this is real, yet doubts still creap in. What are the opinions of your group on this activity? Am I helping? Are people (some new age people) right when they they tell me I shouldn't be doing it?

Hai: There are plenty of souls who do this work from the other spirit realms and they are better equiped, are on the right kind of vibration to undertake this work. We, when on the earth plane, must assuredly send our good intent, our well wishing thoughts to those who are trapped in the darker regions. But the work is not appropriate to undertake from the earthly plane in the way in which he suggests. It is better to send healing and love mentally, generally, to all those in the darker regions. Or if we suspect that there are particular people who will be in the darker regions because of difficulties from their lives upon the earth plane then it is good to send them your individual thoughts of love and well-being.

But beyond this it is not necessary or appropriate to do more. There are those sometimes who are trapped spirits on the earth plane, whom we may come across on the earth plane while we are still in our earthly bodies. And because they are still attached to the physical plane, their vibration partakes of the physical plane, there is a transaction, an inter-changeability between the vibrations of themselves and the earth plane and it is more appropriate to help these souls from the earth plane. We can also reach out to them from the spirit planes, but it is possible for you to play a role in helping them to release themselves from the physical plane because of their ongoing association with it. So this is more appropriate.

Q: Why would the guides take Dale to these places, Hai?

Hai: I cannot understand this.

Q: Can you advise how Dale might best use his endeavours rather than in his current way?

Hai: He may use his endeavours to lift the veil, draw back the curtain between the two worlds that others on the earth plane may have access, may come to understand the reality of the spirit planes. So he can act in this way, as a go between. He can refine his skills in order to help to reveal the spirit lands to those who are still on the earth plane. If he should come across those souls who are earth bound, who are trapped on the earthly plane, he can also help with them. But we would suggest that this work is best not undertaken by one person alone but by at least two people in association with each other, in support of each other. We will also assist in the process. We will work with those who work in this way to help these souls.

Q: Do you mean the souls who are seen around places, but not necessarily the traditional types of haunting?

Hai: I mean those who are trapped. We may perceive them as hauntings, but they are trapped souls, souls who are earth bound. I have said before that sometimes these hauntings are almost, you could say, trapped vibrations. They can be trapped vibrations in the stonework of buildings or whatever and under certain conditions the tape replays. But these are not genuine spirits, these are fascimiles, holograms perhaps you would call them. They are not independent living entities. Whereas those souls who are trapped souls, who are earthbound, are living independent entities with personalities of their own; truly alive, living.

Q: Are there many of these entities which are trapped in this way?

Hai: There are quite a number, Tim, yes, quite a number; where they have had trauma of death or trauma of life they sometimes will be bound to their conditions and circumstances upon this earth plane.

Q: How do you help them to move on, Hai?

Hai: You must first form a connection with them, sympathetic vibration, simple openness to them, connecting with them. If you can form a connection with them they can then sometimes communicate, listen to you, take in what you are saying to them. This calls sometimes for great patience. For in many ways they are trapped, not just within the earth plane, but also within their own minds, their own souls and are not always responsive to the presence, the intercedence of others.

Q: Presumably a person who was not a practicing clairvoyant would not be able to connect with them?

Hai: You would not be able to connect directly but you can connect with them as Jacob (our spirit guide who takes us through development sessions) has told you, in different ways. You can connect through feeling, through sensing, through clairvoyant sight, through hearing clairaudiently, through clairsentience.

Q: Do you then tell them there is another life and encourage them to move on?

Hai: Yes you show some understanding of their condition. This is the most important thing. So you try to communicate, receive message, communication from them regarding their concerns, their trauma, their rationale for lingering. And in understanding, empathising with great sensitivity to this reason for their lingering you also help them and greatly assist them. For the bond of love and compassion transcends and remedies all things. So when you have shown compassion and understanding for their problem, for their experience, they then will be ready to listen to you, to think about moving on. And in this situation one of us from our side can reach to them and they will be responsive to us. They will see us, whereas perhaps in the past they have not seen us.

Q: So when we have done all these things would we then suggest to the spirit that they look around them and see if there is anyone there to help?

Hai: Yes you can say to them: "if you look my friend you will see those from the light who are trying to reach you."

John the Entrepreneur

John began by telling us he liked a drink when on the earth plane and the communication started with some jovial discussion about how to drink wine. He told us that he had sold goods and travelled by ship to other countries with his 'specialist' wares. There was further joviality when we discussed how it had been necessary to lean overboard to be sick in rough seas in his day and we compared that to the current modern receptacles available now. The laughter was hilarious and then our visitor appeared to be receiving some instructions from Davia (Spirit Gate Keeper). He then said the following:

John: He is telling me to move on because, he says "there are no appropriate contents for another book in this my friend, move on". (More laughter from both sides followed). "He says they do not have people who wish to spend good money buying some book to hear about the technical specifications for receptacles to gather vomit or for wind direction advice on leaning over the boat". The laughter eventually subsided and someone asked:

Q: What kind of a life did you have then?

John: I had a busy life. I was a trader in wares. No ordinary trader mind you, but what you would call an entrepreneur; a successful trader in other words.

He then directed his voice to the French man in our group and said:

John: As good as any French man on your side of the Channel my friend and there were some good entrepreneurs there I shall tell you, because I knew some of them. The language of enterprise and money surpassed any problems of language of the ordinary kind. We each only knew a smattering of the other's language, but we overcame such meagre difficulties with our talk of commerce. I know my friends -

John stopped mid sentence and appeared to be talking to Davia again. He then told us:

John: "Get to the point", Davia is saying, "Get to the point". The point of this my friends, as Davia so generously puts it, yes: that as we found the common language of commerce was the greater language which we knew. Because the language we had been indoctrinated into at our birth divided us. The common language of commerce was a mightier language by far, which embraced us, which connected us, which struck a deep friendship between us in ways which would be hard to understand. So Davia is getting me to the point, which is - Love. Love is a mighty language that can strike connections in ways that can deepen beyond understanding, but which are sure and certain to connect our hearts regardless of our differences. So there you have it.

Q: Is this about us reaching out to people in the Arab world?

John: Yes reaching out, but not just to those people in the Arab world who we may have spoken to you about of late, but to all peoples in all climes, in all countries, (smiling) vomiting on the seas or not. If you can put up with my sea sickness analogy a bit further: You have to weather the storms. For storms there will be when you do something which some people do not like. For it is against their interests, as they perceive it, their egotistic influences and presumptions. But there we have it and we must still do it. Like your weary old traveller on the road, my friends ( a reference to our guided meditation earlier).

Q: What do you do now in the spirit world?

John: I do various things. I am a man of many talents even though I say so myself. I do a bit of that, a bit of this, a bit of the other, which does not mean your 'other'. I am versatile in my employ. You do not need to strike out on one tack you know, you can pursue a number. You may add variety to your repertoire on this plane as you can on your plane. There is much to be said for that. It keeps your interest alive. I study the books in the mighty libraries here. Sometimes you do not need to read them as such; you can connect with them, their gist and read their inner deeper meaning. Sometimes you can go to the author and ask for a synopsis, (laughs), yes the cheat's way. They shake their heads, but they still give me the synopsis then bid me go back to the work.

Q: Is the library vast?

John: Yes and it expands as you go through it, but time and space are no constraints here. It is like you can go to a section on this, a section on that and as you walk to the section, there it is manifesting before you where some might say it did not exist or manifest before. Yet truly it did manifest, it did exist yet it was not within your awareness until you sought it out. Can you understand this? So there are no limitations on time or space here.

Q: If it is not within your awareness until you seek it out, how do you know to seek it out?

John: Because you have an inner need, an inner knowing and there you are, there it is, before your very eyes.

Q: So you don't know that you know before it is time for you to know, is that what you mean?

John: It's time for you know? Yes well there's a concept, there's an idea. For where there is no time when is the time for you to know? (Laughs). Yes that's a conundrum for you. Time is a relative thing, my friends, constructed like you construct your buildings and works of art.

Q: Isn't time just a measurement as in distances?

John: Yes it is a measurement at one level but yet there are other measurements of time are there not, in your world? The measurements of change yes, but in the middle of vast Changelessness where does change pertain also? Change itself is an illusion. For within the change is Changelessness, which makes the change possible for you. Change is only possible because of Changelessness, the nature of the very essence of all.

Q: Is change and changelessness a synonym for evolution?

John: No it is something different. For on your planet you have evolution, which is indeed a synonym for change at one level, but yet there is a Changelessness within evolution, within change itself. There is a mighty Knowing, a Oneness at the Centre, a Stillness at the Centre and this Stillness absorbs and generates all change, knows all things and it is certain of Itself yet embracing all - embracing all (smiling again.) Even the poor marina with his head stuck over the boat vomiting. It embraces even him in his moment of pain and agony.

Q: I would think he would be hoping for some change in his circumstances.

John: Truth; you are right sir. Change for the poor mariner is a respite, having emptied the contents of his stomach overboard.

There was some further conversation about the kind of goods our visitor traded in and he told us that he was last on the earth plane some three or four hundred years ago. He explained that he'd had a wife on the earth plane but explained that 'the connection was not well established on this earthly plane' because of his interests and activities. He had sought female company when on his many journeys, which had not bode well for the marital relationship. He is not with his wife in the spirit world. He finished with:

John: Well I think it is time for me to be upping anchor, so I shall be away with the first wind. You can call me John, John the entrepreneur. We do so like these add on's you know. It so much captures the flavour of us than merely our name. Fare thee well then and fair sailing to you all with smooth seas, (smiling), without the requirements of your cardboard box.

EASTER

Q: Is Easter an important time in the spirit world?

Hai: Not particularly. You refer to the Christ Spirit; you refer to the crucifixion, yes? Well this was a great sadness, a great misfortune, but there were many who were sacrificed in the course of right, in the course of truth; the great teachers as well as humans.

Q: When the great teachers go over to spirit are they considered special?

Hai: They are advanced souls. They are advanced souls here as they were on the earth plane and in fact have continued to progress in the spirit planes.

Q: Have you visited these levels where these advanced spirits live out their existence?

Hai: I have been fortunate in being enabled to visit such planes.

Q: Were you in awe of these advanced souls?

Hai: There is no need for awe because you feel the love of such souls and the love is evoked in you also. There is no need for awe. Awe is out of place.

Q: Is that because of the harmony one finds in the Spirit World?

Hai: It is because of the amount of love you find in the Spirit World.

Q: Is the name Hai your surname?

Hai: Yes.

Q: Is your first name Hui?

Hai: Yes.

Q: Where you known as someone who is referred to as a well known teacher?

Hai: You should not become too attached to this because my words speak for themselves. You must judge them accordingly. You must not become attached to persona, a personality. Because if there is truth in my words you will know it in your heart. Equally if it is not you should discard the words because you will know there is something wrong in your hearts.

An Interview with Hai (A Brief Guide to the Spirit World)

Recently we had a special sitting for a group of people. A number of the questions asked that night were concerned with general questions about the Spirit World and we thought they may be of interest particularly to newcomers to the site.

Q: What happens and where do you go when you die?

Hai: When you die you are met by someone friendly. You are met by someone who will help you across the divide; who will make you welcome in this new abode. When you come here you will feel that it is familiar yet it is not familiar, if you see what I mean. Yet it will seem familiar to you. You will not feel that it is an alien place, a difficult place, or an unusual place. You will feel that it is familiar to you. So you will feel that it is a bit like returning home. You will not be too surprised when you get here. It's a beautiful place. There are many realms though within these spirit worlds, many realms, and each person is attracted to the level that they wish to be attracted to. They come to the realm that they see as a suitable environment, a fitting environment. So the ancient law of like attracts like applies in this also; that you are attracted to the realm, the world, that you are accustomed to; which is suited to you.

Q: Does it look like earth?

Hai: Yes it looks like earth but it is a lot better.

Hai laughed and indicated that Davia had made a comment saying:

Hai: "It is better because it is sunny." But it is like the earth, but not like the earth. For the colours, they are different, more vibrant, yet more subtle also. More subtle, more vibrant and it is like everything, every place, everywhere, is alive. You feel the Divine Consciousness in all things. This is true of your plane also, but it is like It is veiled more on your plane and many of you are not adjusted to It, do not see It, are not sensitive to It. But on this plane in the spirit world, you will be aware of It, sensitive to It. It is like a blood flowing through all things, a vibrancy flowing through all things, and you are aware of It. It is like the flowers sing out and reach out to you as you look at them.

Q: Is everybody equal in the spirit world?

Hai: Yes everyone is equal. There is of course difference in experience, difference in wisdom, in the degree of unfoldment. This is purely a matter of, you could say, time, yes. For we all can be wise, we all can unfold our wisdom, but some have treaded further along the path to wisdom so at this point they may be further along the path. But you all follow the path too, so everyone is equal. Yet some are more wise, in the sense of being able to see the bigger picture perhaps, more than others. We are all aware of our divine brotherhood, divine sisterhood within the One Mind.

Q: So what happens to people who've been bad on the earth, do they go to the spirit world too?

Hai: They go to their own place. They are attracted to their own vibration. But you must know that we talk of a great variety of vibration, a great variety of orientation here. Some people have indeed not had the best interests of themselves or their brothers or sisters at heart while they have been on the earth plane. Therefore they are attracted to a realm where this way of thinking prevails. But we do not speak of this in terms of those who have erred in a minor way on the path. We speak of those who have made a, what shall we say, "vocation" of harming others. They are led by their own drive and desire to a realm where such views prevail, where such vibrations prevail. It is not a pleasant place. There are many such places, some less pleasant than others. But they are there out of their own volitions, their own wish. They would feel uncomfortable in our place that I speak about, for there they would feel out of place, uncomfortable. Yet we try to reach these souls. Tirelessly those who work with them try to reach them, try to entice them out from their prisons to join the community of light.

Q: How do you spend your time?

Hai: It is not like time on your earth. There is not the constraint of the clock. There is not the same sense of time. Time does not apply in our realm. But yet we can measure things by our activities, by the enterprises in which we engage and we can also be aware of the passage of time on your plane; the passage of events, the changing of events. Time does not apply in the normal sense in our realm; we are free of time.

Q: Do you stay the same age as when you die?

Hai: Age does not apply because time does apply and the change, which is time, does not apply. Therefore you may think of it as staying the same age (laughs) but it is not quite like that. But there is not the change, which you have become accustomed to, the change which is part of your life and indeed which is part of the fabric of your life; a necessary fabric that you experience the physical world in.

Q: Are all families reunited in the spirit world, whether they are young or old?

Hai laughs. He is obviously listening to Davia and replies:

Hai: He says,(referring to Davia): "They are reunited whether they like it or not."(Laughter). But this is a simplification. We would say that it is a case again of like attracting like. It might well be that on the earth plane you have put up with each other. (Smiles). You have got by with each other. But there may not necessarily be merit in you staying together in the spiritual realms. Can you understand this? This does not mean that you have animosity to each other or that you have a desire to be away from each other, but that it may be more appropriate for you to be with other people. But this is a matter for individual choice. Where there is a bond the bond will survive the passage of events. Where there is a bond of love it will survive all things. Therefore, though for a time you may be parted from someone whom you have loved on the earth plane, yet assuredly the bond of love will bring you back together again; for the bond of love is Eternal my friends.

Q: That's lovely, thank you.

Another visitor asked:

Q: How do people with disabilities fare when they arrive in the spirit world?

Hai: They are cured of their affliction because their affliction is purely to do with the body. Yet there can be a greater affliction of the mind. The affliction of the mind is more difficult to cure for the affliction of the mind carries its way across into the spiritual being, the spiritual mind if you wish. Therefore this can be more difficult if harm has been done to the person, either by others or by themselves in terms of the affliction of the mind. Therefore they may need help and loving caring to help them to move forward, to help them to transcend their affliction. There are many in our realms that are ready to do this task lovingly and caringly.

Q: What is your favourite thing about the spirit world?

Hai: (Hai smiles and muses). "My favourite thing". My favourite thing, I suppose I would say, is my little retreat.

Q: What is that like?

Hai: It is very small. It is somewhere I go to meditate, somewhere that is no bigger than this room, as a comparison. But it is like a garden in which I meditate. This I suppose would be my favourite thing but (smiling) as Davia has said many times: "When you have so many things you are spoilt for choice." (Davia was clearly taking part in the discussion, in the background. Hai was quiet for a minute). Davia says to me: "Yes that's right old Hai. Convey the spiel for the ticket sale."

NB: We need to explain here that it has been an ongoing joke for some years now with Davia and his talk of selling us "reduced" priced tickets to the spirit world if we go now instead of later. Amongst much laughter he tells us he needs people to work with him on the "gates," so to entice us to go now he takes every opportunity he can in telling us how beautiful the spirit land is. There was some joviality as Eileen explained to the visitors about Davia's need to sell tickets. She added that Davia's tickets were just one-way tickets and the same visitor asked, with amusement, if there were any refunds. Hai responded smiling:

Hai: You will not need a refund, Davia would say. You will not wish for a refund. But yet though we paint an attractive picture, and though many who come here say they can't wait to go, they still seem reluctant to take the ticket from Davia.

When the laughter had subsided, Hai was asked:

Q: How old are you, Hai?

Hai: I was living to ninety or more when I was on the earth plane. But where does age apply now? I may present myself to you as a young man, a middle aged man, an old man. What does it matter? What does it matter? Age does not apply now.

Q: Do spirits get reincarnated?

Hai: You may be reincarnated but this is usually often a matter of choice; that you see some purpose, some usefulness in reincarnation, to experience something new of life, some new aspect of yourself by experiencing earth life. Therefore you see it as an opportunity to grow, and you may feel moved to take up opportunity.

Q: Do you get over the sadness of leaving your loved ones on the earth plane?

Hai: Yes for our plight is less severe than yours. For though you may connect with us through your mediums or through a sensitivity of your own, we are better placed to maintain the connection. For it is easier for us to see you than it is for you to see us. It is easier for us to come down from our vibration to connect with you than it is for you to concretely connect with us.

Therefore it is less difficult for us, though frustrating. For we can be in your presence and you may not be aware of it. You may not be aware of us standing beside you. This can feel a lonely, isolating thing. Therefore this may be difficult.

But we would say to you when you think of your loved ones in spirit, to think of them with love and affection; to think of happy times you have shared together; to think of joyful times you have shared together; to rejoice in the person, in the relationship and your knowledge of them. This is a positive way to think of it and also a positive way to connect with your loved ones. For we connect with you through thought and feeling my friends. When you send out a feeling of loving affection your loved ones will automatically connect with this, like you had switched on an electric current. They will connect with you as surely as when you switch on your sockets and switches and you have light. Therefore you must not doubt this my friends. If you reach out to them then they connect with you, even though you may only be dimly aware of it. But if you reach out with mourning and grief it brings sadness to them. Some mourning and grief is inevitable in your world for you suffer the loss of a loving relationship, of spending time together. But we would caution you to try to keep this mourning and grief in moderation so that it does not become a hindrance, a blockage to you in connecting with your loved ones in the spirit realms. For if you reach out in mourning and grief and sadness this could create sadness in those whom you love. It creates hindrance to those whom you love. So therefore it is best to think of them with loving positive thought.

Q: Is there anything you wished you learned while you where living on the earth plane; any life lessons?

Hai: Yes - greater patience.

Q: Do we all have spirit guides?

Before answering this question Hai smiled and commented that Davia had told him it was time to move on. Nevertheless he answered the question first.

Hai: You all have spirit guides, my friends, yes; many spirit guides sometimes. You may have one main guide but you may have many helpers. Spirit guides may also change during your life depending on your own need. For this is part of non attachment. We provide ourselves and are willing to help you according to your timely need. If your need moves on, your need changes, then we are willing to step aside and let someone else more fitting help you. We do this even with this group. When we started with this group's, what you call "psychic development nights", we sent through many spirits to work with you, to try things out, to see how they work with you, to find best fit, best connection. We have tried many spirits in this way, but we found eventually the best person for the job, best fit for you. This is not to say that other spirits are not the best fit somewhere else, but for you we found Jacob, so Jacob has worked with you for many a month now. Goodbye my friends. We are pleased you have made this journey and to have met you.

Lewis from Oakland, California in the USA asked: Are there competitive athletics in the spirit world?

Hai: Yes there are, indeed there are competitive athletics. If he wishes we can set him up in a race. We will organise the horses to be ready at the start point. (Laughing). Why does this person want to know this? Why does he want to compete? Perhaps he is addicted to this competitive athletics.

Q: How can this happen in the spirit world because it’s a physical activity isn’t it?

Hai: You have got it in one Arnie. The first requisite of competitive athletics in the spirit land is that no one cheats by mind travel. He would do well to ask himself what it is he likes about competitive athletics. This is important to be clear about both here and there in the spirit land. Yet there are those who can create these conditions. It they wish to become competitive athletics they can become competitive athletics and like your friend Black Beard (one of our guest speakers) he can do his thing within moderation. But it is important to know ourselves my friends, so it is important to ask ourselves: "Why do I like this? What is it I like about this? What is it I get from this? What is it I do not get from that?" This is all self-knowledge, which is important knowledge for us to possess. There are many who are athletics for various reasons. Some because they wish to pit themselves, to match themselves, to compete with others, test their own mettle, to push themselves to see whether they have pushed themselves so they can do better than others. But what is the goal of this? For you may feel good, but does the other person feel good?

And yet it may be pursued, this competitive athletics, with just good-natured fun, just the enjoyment of participating in this sport. It depends upon the spirit of it. But in this as in all things the fundamental question is how must we live, how must we conduct ourselves, what must we do which enhances the life experience of all, enhances the feeling of value for all? This is the fundamental point. So we do not prescribe; we just suggest that people ask questions. But short answer is, if he wishes to do this thing it is like cups of tea. You can have a cup of tea if you wish, but there may be a time when the cup of tea is put to one side. You could engage in competitive, mental athletics (laughing), if you can engage the warp drive first.... I was referring to mind travel.