We'd had a phase of constant questions to Hai from the members of one of our meditation groups about the One Mind. Hai has always told us that the One Mind has to be felt rather than intellectualised and one night, to demonstrate this, Isleen provided us with a very different experiential meditation that aided us with this feeling process. The same week we were sitting for our usual physical phenomena night when, just before we were about to finish, a spirit came through to speak to us. She gave us the name "Honoria". Honoria told us she was from a planet that was far, far away from the earth and it soon became clear that her reason for coming was to continue with Hai's theme of the One Mind. She offered us, in her own way, another illustration of the vastness of the One Mind.
Her message was, that in spite of the distance between us we were nevertheless all intertwined, and all One. She would not allow us to ask questions about her planet and said that she had not come to talk about that. However, Thomas came though straight after and filled us in with some of the details. Below is the communication of Honoria followed by a visit from an old spirit friend, Thomas. N.B. We noticed a marked difference in Paul's voice. The tone was formal and 'laboured' and initially didn't flow as well as we've come to expect. In fact we've not experienced anything of the like before; the nearest we can describe to it is when the angel, Zeon, came through. Notice the formality and wordiness of her language and her use of the term 'we' instead of 'I'.
Honoria: We are honoured to be with you this night. We wish to speak to you. (Introductions took place). You may speak of me as "Honoria".
Q: Have you come to speak about something in particular?
Honoria: I have come to speak to you.
Q: How long ago were you last on the earth plane, Honoria?
Honoria: No, I have not been on your earth plane. I have lived my existence on another far off plane. I speak to you of vibration, of Intertwining-ness.
Q: Do we know of this planet?
Honoria: No it is far, far away; far, far away. Though I speak to you about it, because though it is far, far away, out of your site and imagination, yet I speak to you of it to make you realise that it is intimately entwined with your own; intimately entwined with your own. And though we are far away from you, out of your site and imagination, there is an intertwining-ness of our existence. Yet the riddle of this is: if your people knew of our planet, saw our planet through your instruments and knew we were inhabitants, were beings upon this planet, they would see us as a threat; they would see us as a potential danger. Yet we are a planet of intimate intertwining-ness with you. So how is it that the planet of intertwining-ness with you, which stands beside you, which stands close to you, which is in intimate loving relationship to you, can be seen as a planet of otherness, of separateness of being out there-ness. How is it possible?
We were all a little taken back by the wordiness of all this, but eventually one member of our group asked:
Q: How is it possible?
Honoria: Yes, yes. For it is as it is, for each of you. You live upon your earth plane in a brotherhood, a sisterhood of intertwining-ness, yet you see your brother and sister as separateness. How is this possible? How can it be?
We weren't sure at this point whether we were actually all getting a telling off, but another group member ventured:
Q: Do your people view yourselves as One?
We think she nodded.(We were sitting in the dark).
Q: Is your life span the same as ours?
Honoria: Longer, much longer.
Someone brave started to ask further questions about the way Honoria lived but she replied:
Honoria: I do not come to you to speak to you of this. I come to speak to you of the parallel.
Q: It is hard for us to understand just what you are trying to explain.
Honoria: We stand before you, along side you, with you. In our essence we stand with you. Yet if you were to see us with your telescopes from afar, you would see us as beings that live afar, separate from you, different to you, a threat, fearsome perhaps. Yet we are beings of Divine Intertwining-ness with you.
So it is with you, my friends, upon your earth plane. You are all beings of Intertwining-ness, of each other, with each other. In your inner reality you stand beside each other, with each other, close to each other, but yet you "know" each other as being apart from each other, separate from each other, other than each other. But you, my friends, in your inner essence, in your hearts, are beings of Divine Intertwining-ness, Divine Intertwining-ness. So how can you view, for a fraction of an instant, yourselves as separate from each other, for even a fraction of an instant, when you are beings of Divine Intertwining-ness?
Honoria left as suddenly as she came and Thomas came through immediately after.
We quickly established that it was Thomas talking to us and he continued, with his lovely soft, American accent, with Honoria's theme:
Thomas: You know in your hearts, in your inner being, the truth of what the lady said to you. It don't need no reflection. It don't need no convoluting thinking about it's the truth and you know it. It's like that meditation Isleen gave to you the other night. She tried to give it so that you would feel it, so that you'd know it in your bones and not to think about it in your head; for its deeper than that. It is beyond contradiction, it is beyond question. It is because it is. Do you follow me folks? It is its own certainty, reality; all else is illusion, all else is fabrication.
But human kind, folks, over the ages, they've been keen on this fabrication. They take hold of stuff. They take hold of things and they fabricate something. They make something of it; what they wish it to be, not the reality which it is. This causes all kinds of problems like the slavery which I was subjected to when I lived on the earth plane last; because some folks fabricated a reality on top of the reality. Do you follow me folks?
So we just got to let go of all our fabrications and we gotta touch base, if you like, yeah. And that's putting it mildly. That's not doing justice to what I'm trying to say to you. But I cannot express it much more clearly than this lady that has visited you this night. She tries to convey in her own way, in her own terms, by giving you this parallel of this planet in this galaxy far away from you. Yet she's trying to convey to you the intimacy, the intertwining intimacy of this planet with your own and with your lives. Though you never meet these folks, though you never know of this planet, my friends this planet and its folks are nevertheless in this state of Divine Intertwining-ness with your own. It is like she says, a closeness beyond closeness; a closeness beyond your wildest imagination of what closeness is, yeah.
Q: Is it like a melting into....
Thomas: There are no words, no imagery, which can do it justice, Jane. You are all so close to each other, so divinely intimate with each other, there's nothing that can do it justice. Nothing, nothing.
Q: Do they understand that on their planet, Thomas?
Thomas: They know of you and they know of this truth, this reality. But they know equally that if you were to see them, some of you folks would be oblivious to this reality. And therein lies the danger for them.
Q: Are they from the same planet as Lopaz? (Lopaz is one of our spirit group who lived on another planet when in the physical).
Thomas: No, they are a long way from Lopaz.
One of our group hadn't managed to understand what Honoria had been trying to convey and asked:
Q: Are there any other planets that they are linked to?
Thomas: The point of all this, John, is that they are linked to all planets. They speak of the divine One Mind in a different way you see, but they are speaking of this Divine Interconnectedness, this Divine Intertwining-ness which runs through the whole of Being, the whole of creation, the whole of none creation for that matter (laughs.) There is nothing but, nothing but, you see.
Q: Are they what we would describe as highly evolved beings?
Thomas: Yeah they are highly evolved, they are highly spiritually evolved, and the two do not always go close together, hand in hand, as Lopaz and others have spoken to you about in the past. But on this planet of Honoria's, they are highly evolved, spiritually and physically; they are, one, in fact. The evolution of this species, this planet, this being, they are one. They are beautiful, folks, they are beautiful, yeah.
Q: Why do they need to be born again on a planet if they are so evolved, Thomas?
Thomas: They wish to express the spiritual in a refined way in the physical. They realise the two are not two, they are one. But they want to manifest this oneness in the physical universe (laughing). Yeah, they up for the challenge you see.
Q: Is Honoria still in the physical realm or in the spiritual realm?
Thomas: She is on the physical, but (smiling) she is spiritual. There is no contradiction for her in this. The two are one and she has absolute connectedness with the physical and the spiritual. You could say she stands astride the two worlds if you wish to understand it this way. She is living on her planet in the physical condition but is cognisant and has a foot in the other camp too. She lives at the intersection of the two worlds. For in the purity of the physical manifestation there is no contradiction in this. There is a possibility of being astride two worlds, having connectedness with the two worlds and their being one.
Q: Are they all at that stage on her planet?
Thomas: Yes.
Q: If we were to physically see one of them what would their appearance be like?
Thomas: They would appear to you as beings of light, but yet their bodies are bodies, but of a refinement, a refinement within the physical universe which you cannot scarcely approach in your conception.
Q: Would they be interpreted as being angels then?
Thomas: They would if they were seen by you folks and you did not know their origin. You may be fooled into thinking that they are angels. And there would be no harm in that 'cause (laughing) assuredly they are angels in their inner being, their inner disposition, they are beautiful angels, but they are of the physical world. They will appear ethereal to you yet are of a substance; they are not only spiritual beings, they are of substance. They are light years ahead of you in your evolution, both physical and spiritual, yet they are your brothers and sisters.
Q: Is that just because they are an older species than us?
Thomas: They have been around a long, long time. They pre-date the evolution of your world, so they have been around a long time and have had the opportunity to endure through their trials, their tribulations, to become refined in their development both spiritual and physical. But you would approach them, some of you, with fear. This is what she tried to convey to you. But there are no grounds, no substance to this fear, for you are Divine Intertwining-ness.
Q: Do they visit us apart from coming to talk through Paul now?
Thomas: Yeah they can sometimes visit you without you knowing, without you being aware. They can transcend time and space at will.
Q: Do you think our species will ever develop that far, Thomas?
Thomas: In the fullness of time you will evolve; you will grow and develop. But the times of much hardship will come. You will have to go through the times of much hardship before you will get there. But human kind is no stranger to times of much hardship.
Q: What is the name of Honoria's planet?
Thomas: It don't matter too much because you won't know it anyway. It's not even in your conception. It is not on your maps. It's not within your imagination. So if we give you a name what does it accomplish?
There was some laughter then when Thomas laughed and said that in future they would make sure all guests showed their credentials and Davia (gate keeper, stage manager) would ask for their calling card. Eileen asked:
Q: Would Davia have stopped her coming through if he hadn't liked the look of her?
Thomas: Yeah he could stop them, but he wouldn't want to stop this beautiful lady though. You know what he's like with the ladies, Eileen.
Q: Did he go and seek her out for us, Thomas?
Thomas: No he sort of became aware of her and invited her.
Q: Are there any other evolved creatures or species like Honoria?
Everyone laughed at the use of the word 'creatures' and Thomas replied:
Thomas: You know folks John's given me some thoughts here that it's useful to share with you because he was asking about creatures. Well what you need to do, folks, you want to turn that word 'creatures' into creators for surely you are creators and that is part of the problem she was talking about folks; because we create our worlds. Yeah, and our creations are not always bonny children (laughs.)
I do believe it must be time to finish and I wish you well. Goodbye folks and Davia is telling me to tell you: 'Happy hearts, and easy minds'.