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Evil

John from the UK asked a question about "evil people" in the Spirit World

Q: When I die and pass over, will I be able to know what has happerned to the spirits of evil people, such as Hitler and others like him ?

Hai: He will not be able to find out where all the evil, bad spirits have gone, but he will be able to find out where all the poor misguided spirits have gone.

Q: So you don't call them evil or bad?

Hai: No, the consequences of their behaviour may be evil, but within them they have the seed of all loving compassion. Therefore we must find this loving compassion; help them to find this loving compassion in themselves. Therefore we do not speak of evil spirits but of spirits who have wandered off the path.

Q: Will he be able to find out what happened to those people by going to the Halls of Learning, or will other spirits be able to tell him?

Hai: Yes, or as you say, other spirits may know.

Evil Deeds, Karmic Consequences and Self-Awareness

Q: Recently there have been a few cases of fathers killing their children. Would the children have known this before they reincarnated?

Hai: No, not always so. Things are not preordained, not pre-planned to the nth degree. Some things are planned; some things are preordained even, you may say, in terms of the general experience that a spirit may experience on this plane of yours. But not all is written in stone, not all is written (smiles) even in sand.

Q: So referring to your answer to the last question, if the father were ready to reflect on what he'd done, would there not be any consequences to his actions?

Hai: There is great consequence. There is great consequence, for though I said that there is not in every case the act of reflection or review of their life, this does not mean there are no consequences. I portray to you a soul who has done great wrong upon this earth plane of yours. And they find themselves in an area of the spirit lands, which is dark and grey and dismal. And they find themselves in great distress, isolation, and morbid disposition; the consequences of their acts you see. Do you follow me? Therefore you create your own karma; you create your own conditions which you will find yourselves in, in the spirit land. Yet there are those in the spirit land who will also look out for you, who will seek you out, who will try to entice you to lighter planes, who will try to entice you to develop self awareness, who will try to guide you to the light. But the light can be a painful thing to approach, because as you approach the light you see your own errors, you see your own disfigurement ever more clearly. And in seeing this disfigurement and impurity so much more clearly you experience the pain of that, and indeed the very love of those who seek to help you are like the burning irons on which the blacksmith works, upon your own very flesh. No pain is intended but pain is nevertheless received because of the condition of such souls. Can you follow me in this? So the pain is inflicted by themselves, the souls who have pursued such things. But all will be brought within the fold; all will be embraced within the light; all without exception.

Q: And are the children given advice about why their father did this?

Hai: The father did this because of clinging to their separateness, their own ego, their own distorted needs, and their own excesses. You must not try to reason so much about these things because it is beyond reason in one sense. There is a deeper knowledge, a deeper understanding beyond reason. It is only by applying this that such things become at all tolerable. Not in the sense that they should ever occur because they should never occur, but yet they become intelligible in a sense; but it is all due to a distortion, the excesses of the human you.

Q: Does that mean that if you don't experience the dark side of your soul on earth then you have to experience it in spirit?

Hai: No. No. What I have spoken of is an unbroken thread between the experience of the earth plane and the spirit planes. But those who do such deeds, who give over themselves to such excesses, will experience the karmic consequences upon themselves within the spirit plane. And as they find themselves drawn to the light they may find this to be a painful experience, not because anyone inflicts pain upon them, but because of the experience of their own awareness developing and the full understanding of the consequences and implications of what they have done; those deeds which they have committed. Therefore it is not necessary for people to experience the "dark side of the soul" as you say, but inevitably many will, yes to a greater or lesser degree.

Someone in the group who's job it is to work with criminals asked a follow on question.

Q: When we work with people who are very disconnected or if they cross our path in some way, how much difference do you think we can make by, for example, leading by example and perhaps sending love and compassion. And even though they will not be aware we are sending it can it have a positive effect on such a person?

Hai: Intent can always help, Mary, yes good intent can always help; compassion can always help. By putting your intent into the pool of compassion, of love, then that pool of compassion and love may affect those who live in your world. So there are many levels by which to help someone. You may help someone with what you would call prayer, good intent, reaching out in prayer. But you may also help as you implied, by direct example, by showing love and compassion to those who need your love and compassion. But yet your love and compassion must be an aware love and compassion. Do you follow? It must not be a compassion which is taken advantage of. You must give your love and compassion in awareness.

Q: Do you mean we mustn't be naive?

Hai: Yes for it helps no one, to be naive. (Smiles) He (Davia) says to me, "a doormat," for love must often challenge. Those wise ones who help the souls in the darker regions they may make progress through gentle challenge but challenge they must, for if they do not challenge, (laughs) no one will go anywhere; they will go round in circles.