Q: What did you learn from your life?
Penn: Apart from learning to drink in moderation, I learnt you must be productive in your life, must not fritter it away. Because time is of the essence and when you are under the influence it passes more quickly and you are in tomorrow (laughs) before you have even experienced today. It is wasteful I must admit. Therefore you must be productive with your life. It is like a journey and if you do not journey you will not experience anything. You will not see the sights. You will not experience and learn things from it. So I learnt this.
Also because I fritted away my life, in a sense the drinking was not important. Important in one sense in that I had become the slave to it, the vice if you want to call it that. But even more importantly my life was fritted away because of it. I did not use my life constructively. I do not say that you therefore should become obsessive in terms of making something of your life because this could be obsessive in the other direction, if you follow me. But it is important to be constructive with our opportunities to live on this plane of life; to use it to best advantage that we may learn and grow from it. You follow me?
So this is my main learning point from my life on this plane. The drink was just a symptom, if you wish, of the underlying cause, which was a lack of application. Application to drink and not application to life. It was an enjoyable life (laughs) by all accounts, though it was like living in a sense of anaesthesia.
Q: Would you like to come back to the earth plane again?
Penn: I might come back, if you come back as a serving wench again, especially if you wear that frock. (He was referring to his last life and he'd previously told the person concerned that she'd been a serving wench in the tavern that he'd frequented.)
Q: Did you have a particular reason for coming back last time?
Penn: Yes well I've already told you, it was application.
Q: So did you have to come back last time because you hadn't learnt that previously?
Penn: It was not that I had not learnt it in a previous life but given my f r e e d o m because of my resources, I had total freedom to apply myself to anything I would wish but I did not use my freedom wisely. I neglected it, yes. So that was the test you see: to have my vast resources at my disposal and yet to waste them; to fritter them away; and not to apply myself because I did not need to apply myself because I was well provide for.
But whether we are well provided for or not. Whether we do not need to lift a finger because we are well endowed. Yet you must be enterprising. Yes, you must find some way of expressing your individuality, your gifts; being constructive with your life.
Penn had sounded very drunk during the first ten minutes of the communication. Not only was the medium's voices slurred, his face showed all the hallmarks of someone drunk. Eileen had never seen Paul in this state before and asked:
Q: When you first came through Paul did coming close to the physical body make you feel drunk again?
Penn: I can experience it more as I touch the physical. An unusual experience touching the physical again, yes. I lived until I was old you know in spite of my drink. I had big rings on my fingers.
Eileen commented that his visit had been a unique experience for her. She had never seen or heard Paul drunk and had some idea now what he would look and sound like. Penn answered:
Penn: Shall I come back sometime and share a tot with him. (Laughs). What does he like to drink?
Eileen informed Penn that Paul liked to drink wine. The answer did not impress him and he continued:
Penn: Spirits, there is more bite in spirits. Takes longer to get to that pleasant state with wine. Well I should be going I suppose. It's been very pleasant talking to you. Goodbye.
Davia: We must keep things in perspective. We must not let ourselves loose sight of what life is all about. We are here to enjoy ourselves, to enjoy each other, to be at one with nature, to be at one with the world. We've got to try to do all these things. We've got to earn a living, we've got to do the business (laughs) so that's ok, but we must not overdo it. We must keep things in balance, in perspective. Would you agree with me, Paul? (a member of the group)
Paul: Well, yes, but sometimes I think that if I go out with my friends I won't do as well with my exams.
Davia: Oh I no, but you can overdo it can you not? You can fill your mind so full of stuff that you cannot find it (laughs again) in your filing system. So you've got to have balance.
Paul: It's so hard though.
Davia: Well this is true; you've got to work hard in this life. You are all here to learn about life and development. But you've also got to keep things in balance, because one of the most important things that you learn on this earth is the issue of balance. It truly is my friends. You see, part of your big problem, Jane, (referring to what she got in her meditation) if I dare, you can sometimes, perhaps, on occasion, (laughs heartily) suffer from lack of balance, as we all can, you see. This becomes a problem, because you see, when we lose our balance then this attachment thing becomes the problem. It is like someone who spends all the time cleaning their house you see; they've lost balance. So if this person can be persuaded that they also need to be doing other things like a bit of art or enjoying the company of others, or something, then they are a more well rounded person and they lose their attachment to cleaning the house pretty dam quick.
The conversation became very light-hearted (all around balance) and then Davia continued:
Davia: I know it is difficult because you have this way of life, but you must not overdo it. You must not lose your peace of mind over it. You must not lose your balance over it. You must maintain the equilibrium of your life. You must maintain a balanced life in its different perspectives.
Paul: But we only have so much time on this earth, this time around.
Davia: But you have so many different cards to play. You do not need to do it all this time around. No you do not. You can next time play a different role, a different card, to do some of things you have not done this time if you wish to. You do not need to cram your life full of stuff.
Paul: I don't want to come back again and you haven't come back yet have you?
Davia: I have not done everything but I have done a lot in my different lives and you can experience things as well in the spirit land you know. You can achieve some lessons here. Admittedly not the deep hard knocks you need on the earth plane, but you can achieve some lessons and development here. You see there are so many ways to grow. You can turn up every Friday to listen to some poor souls chanting. (This referred to our Friday night sessions when we sing and brought about much laughter from the group).
Eileen: But what would happen if I took more time out and the next book didn't get written?
Davia: Well we are grateful for what you do but we would have to find another way. You see we are writing books every week, all the time. We write another book tonight. Janet takes a little chapter off here, Paul takes a little chapter there and so on you see and even if you do not speak to people directly about this evening, in the tone of what you say you may convey something of it nevertheless. So you see in a way your book gets written anyway, whether you like it or not.(Laughter)