Tranquil Spirit, Northwich, Cheshire, UK - Spirit Communications: Spiritual Progress

Spirit Communications:

Spiritual Progress

Spiritual/Human Progress

Q: Do people keep making the same mistakes because they don't remain in the spirit world long enough to learn before coming back or would they still make their mistakes anyway?

Hai: The wisest soul is put to the test when they return to the earthly planes.

Q: Could you expand on that please?

Hai: You know that there have many saintly men who have started out right but have slipped back. So we cannot take things for granted. In the heart of the greatest saint there is the heart of a sinner and in the heart of the sinner is the heart of the greatest saint.

Q: How does all this learning equate with the One Mind?

Hai: We must rediscover ourselves. We must find our roots in the One Mind. We must recognise our essence in the One Mind. And so far as we are constant, so far as our identity is within the One Mind Itself we will not go astray. We will manifest It's love and compassion on the earth. But we must put aside our own egos to achieve this. We must put aside our own preoccupations. We must put aside our interpretation of the One Mind's purpose and the One Mind's love.

Q: So if every person on earth were able to do this what would there be?

Hai: Harmony would prevail, great love would prevail, and security without question would prevail.

Q: Would people still have to come to the earth plane to learn?

Hai: So far as souls in the spirit lands would need the earthly experience then also they would have to manifest this expression of the One Mind; to manifest the harmony amongst the peoples of the world. The road may seem a long road but you have heard the saying which I have said before which is: "the journey of a thousand miles is started with the first footstep" and as footstep follows footstep we are assured of the end of our journey.

Q: Are you still on your journey?

Hai: We are all still on our journey.

Q: So do you still have plenty to learn and are still evolving?

Hai: We have all got things to learn myself included.

Q: Is there any end to the learning and education or is it infinite like the universe?

Hai: There is no end to the journey. There is identity with the One Mind. There is the return Home. There is the knowledge of who we are but the expression of who we are involves a never-ending journey, an exciting journey, a journey of constant discovery.

Eileen commented:

Q: If I was an evolved soul and knew that I could make a mistake by coming back to earth and so would have to return again to put things right, I think I would want to quit while I was winning.

Hai replied with amusement:

Hai: You are not gambling so you cannot simply cash your chips in. No, this does not work like this. You know, great gains, great advances must be won and with great chances we must be prepared to take risks, to take chances to learn to move forward, to grow, to develop. If we do not take chances we do not grow, we do not develop. We make mistakes along our way but no one should blame us for this for, if we make these mistakes in good honest heart, what more can people ask of us.

We will make mistakes and we must put up with those mistakes, recognize them and acknowledge they are part of our growth. We should not reprimand ourselves too severely for them for we all make mistakes; some are more conscious of their mistakes than others but all make mistakes.

Spiritual progress and its difficulties

Hai: We cannot take progress for granted. We cannot accept that it will just merely happen. We must make it happen. We must apply ourselves and our leaders must apply themselves.

Q: Do people keep making the same mistakes because they don't stay in the spirit world long enough before coming back or would they still make their mistakes anyway?

Hai: The wisest soul is put to the test when they return to the earthly planes.

Q: Could you expand on that please?

Hai: You know that there have many saintly men who have started out right but have slipped back. We cannot take things for granted. In the heart of the greatest saint there is the heart of a sinner. In the heart of the sinner is the heart of the greatest saint.

Q: How does all this learning equate with the One Mind?

Hai: We must rediscover ourselves. We must find our roots in the One Mind. We must recognise our essence in the One Mind. And so far as we are constant, so far as our identity is within the One Mind itself, we will not go astray. We will manifest Its love and compassion on the earth. But we must put aside our own egos to achieve this. We must put aside our own preoccupations. We must put aside our interpretation of the One Mind's purpose and the One Mind's love.

Q: So if every person on earth was able to do this what would there be?

Hai: Harmony would prevail. Great love would prevail. Security without question would prevail.

Q: Would people still have to come to the earth plane to learn?

Hai: So far as souls in the spirit lands would need the earthly experience then also they would have to manifest this expression of the One Mind, to manifest the harmony amongst the peoples of the world. The road may seem a long road but you have heard the saying which I have made before which is "the journey of a thousand miles is started with the first footstep and as footstep follows footstep we are assured of the end of our journey"

Q: Are you still on your journey?

Hai: We are all still on our journey.

Q: So do you still have plenty to learn and are still evolving?

Hai: We have all got things to learn, myself included.

Q: Is there any end to the learning and the education or is it infinite like the universe?

Hai: There is no end to the journey. There is identity with the One Mind. There is the return Home. There is the knowledge of who we are. But the expression of who we are involves a never ending journey, an exciting journey. A journey of constant discovery.

Q: If I was an evolved soul and knew that I could make a mistake by coming back to earth and maybe be set back I think I would want to quit while I was winning.

Hai: (with amusement) You are not gambling and you can cash your chips in! No, this does not work like this. You know, great gains, great advances must be won with great chances. We must be prepared to take risks, to take chances, to learn to move forward, to grow, to develop. If we do not take chances we do not grow, we do not develop. We make mistakes along our way, but no one should blame us for this. For if we make these mistakes in good heart, honest heart, what more can people ask of us? We will make mistakes and we must put up with those mistakes, recognise them and put up with them and acknowledge they are part of our growth. We should not reprimand ourselves too severely for them, for all make mistakes. Some are more conscious of their mistakes than others, but all make mistakes.

There was some discussion about people whom many have regarded as saintly, but have been found to commit acts of great immorality.

Q: It worries me that you could find yourself doing that when you are a wise soul.

Hai: Wise without wisdom.

Q: Would he not necessarily have wisdom if he was wise?

Hai: You have answered your own question. You walk up the hill and you step on some mud and you slip backwards. Having been up the hill is no avail to you. Having seen the sights on the top of the hill is no avail to you when you have slipped back on the mud slide to the half way point. Karma, the debt of karma is greater for this, of course, for you have seen the vision at the summit; you have seen the view, the landscape, from the summit, but have slipped back.

Q: I suppose it's one thing to reach the pinnicle, but it's another to maintain yourself at that level. It's probably a very difficult thing to do.

Hai: The Zen masters say when you have had the enlightenment experience the work begins. There are those who have the enlightenment experience and that's all it is, an experience which is forgotten in the mists of time eventually. There are those who have the experience and apply themselves for a short time after to try to integrate the experience into their lives. There are those who have the experience and apply themselves with rigour to integrate the experience into their lives and manifest the Heart which they have seen. But it is work to do this. We must apply ourselves in patience endurance and compassion.

Q: Did you opt for the last option when you had the experience?

Hai: I endeavoured to opt for the last form of expression.

Q: Do you think you were successful or did you slip in the mud?

Hai: We all slip in the mud, but there are mud patches and there are mountains of mud.

Q: Why are you smiling when you say that to me Hai

Hai: We do well if we can just restrict our slipping to slipping on the patches of mud, little slip which may be rectified more easily than slipping on the mountain of mud. 

Michael from Toronto, Canada, asked the following question:

Q: What is the greatest impediment to manifesting God's abundance in our lives? How pervasive is "poverty consciousness" in mankind?

Hai: Well you know if you wish to manifest the bountifulness of nature, of God's providence within your life there must be trust within your lives. There must be trust in the manifestation of this abundance. But there is a difficulty here. For how shall we define this abundance? What does this abundance mean? What meaning does it have? For we would suggest that abundance can be different things; can be different things to different people. What is abundance for one person will not be seen as abundance for another. We all seek abundance in our lives but what we seek when we talk of this abundance might be very different things. One person might see abundance as being in the wilderness, in the beauty of the wilderness, with all the sufficiency of nature around them. For another this would be immense poverty and for them abundance would be the sights and sounds of a city. For another it may be riches beyond measure in their pocket. For another it might be living in simple poverty within which they find a richness which is beyond their imagination, beyond their wildest dreams. Therefore it is difficult to answer this question for it depends upon how we interpret abundance; what meaning it has for us; what it is that we seek in life.

It may be also that abundance can change for us from one lifetime to another. In one lifetime abundance might be richness of experiences, tasting the whole of life and what it has to offer. But in another life it might be depth of experience, which might mean that we hardly move from our base, from our home where we put down our roots. Yet who is to say that one is more abundant than the other in its richness? We cannot say this can we? Therefore what is it this person wants? What is it this person wishes? It depends upon what they want in their lives.

Some would say that they are blessed because they receive the riches of the earth. Some would say that God has blessed them because they receive the riches of the earth. But we cannot say this for sure. For some may be cursed by the riches of the earth rather than it be a blessing. Therefore even this is hard to deliberate over. It is not that we should expect the riches of the earth in any one lifetime. For the earth has not these riches to give to all of us. Nor is it that it should be so for we all have need of different experiences within our different lifetimes. It would not do that they were too similar, for our needs are different and varied. And therefore one person in their lifetime might indeed need the riches of the earth to learn the lessons which they will bring with them. But another person may need immense poverty to learn the lessons which it brings with it. And so it is hard to answer this question in a simple way.

Q: So the answer to the question is unique to each individual?

Hai: It is unique to each individual. But I would say to you that within your own circumstances, from within your own viewpoint, abundance is to be found. Abundance is to be found by not grasping, by not gripping, not holding on, not being attached to the pursuit of this or that. For there is abundance in the moment, in the moment, in the Now, if we could only still our minds we would see this abundance all around us and within us. Great peace must surely be our ultimate aim, must it not? Peace of mind, peace of soul, peace of being. If we can achieve this would we not think of ourselves as living in immense abundance? But this achieving of great peace, of great stillness, does not come from outside events or conditions. But it comes from within. It is not easy to find perhaps, because our minds are drawn without. We are conditioned by the world around us to seek things without. But we should turn within. We should look within. For within we will find a great abundance within ourselves. A self-sufficiency which is borne of the One Mind.

Hai: We would only say this further, and it is a big "only" perhaps, but it is right and proper that we should share the riches of the earth among the nations, among those who are poor, among those who are needy. For I would say this: That we must share, we must reach out to those other nations which are poorer than our own. We should seek to relieve the conditions and oppression of their peoples by reaching out with our love to them. For as you may say truly: "There, but for the grace of God, go I." Therefore, we should reach out to our brothers and sisters in these far lands, these lands of poverty and do what we can to relieve their plight. The riches of the earth are given that we may share them fairly and equally. That we may redistribute them, distribute them, to meet the need of our brothers and sisters.