Tranquil Spirit, Northwich, Cheshire, UK - Spirit Communications: Power

Spirit Communications through Trance Mediumship/Channeling:

Power

The Lure of Power

Q: Were the emperors in Ancient China special spiritual people?

Hai: No, not generally. There were some who were more adept in matters spiritual. There were some who were more interested in matters temporal. There were some who patronized the Buddhist temples, the Taoist temples and so on to great degree, yes. But they did not all do this and they were not all interested in equal measure with the spiritual side of life.

Q: Were the emperors especially chosen?

Hai: Well it was like you have had in your history also. It was a matter of chance; it was a matter of the powerful seizing power at their opportune moment of time to seize power. Yet there were these dynasties planned and designed to take on the control of the country over time also, because these set up dynasties of power that prevailed over time, yes, their families kept power within their bounds, within their grasp. So it was a mixture of things. There were insurrections; were those who sought power and seized power; those who were already powerful and wished to have more power and yet there were others who also wished to have this power. Therefore there were wars over who should succeed as emperor; who should have the most control of the country. This has ever been the way, the petty ego getting in the way.

Q: I always thought spirit would have more control over who was born into these positions.

Hai: No, no for even if someone said: "I want to be born into this position of power for I know best, I will be good son of virtue. I be benevolent master, I be chaste king." Yet when they have their hands on the reigns of power then there is a change in them. So you see first minister say: "I don’t think you are right my liege, my king, my emperor." Then he say: "So you think that do you? Then we shall have your head off." It is a lot easier this way is it not than arguing the toss over the point?

Q: Some people do love arguing purely for the pleasure of it though.

Hai: But I speak of humane civilized discussion, argument, where someone have legitimate point of view which should be listened to. But there are those with mighty egos too big for own boots, who do not listen easily, who wish to have things their way, who wish to decide for themselves. Therefore they are not interested in listening to civilized discussion. Yes there are those who like to argue for arguments sake but this is different situation.

Monks in monastery sometimes like to argue for arguing sake yes. So this becomes some kind of game to see who can win. This is not good also. This is not deriving truth, this is about who can play cleverest game to win.

Q: So nothing's changed from your day to now, Hai.

Hai: No, human nature remains the same. But it may be that the same human nature may reach the peaks of Everest, yes or the depths of the inner caverns of the earth. So it is a marvelous thing this human nature, which is capable of such variety of achievement.

Q: Shouldn’t we all have to have a turn of coming back as someone in power?

Hai: Well it is true. There is much to be learnt from coming back and having power, of having the responsibility of having control. There is much to be learnt from this. It is an acid test. Yes, a bitter test sometimes. It is nice you see. You become a powerful figure; you become a head of state, yes. You look at coin of land, coin of realm and see your head, your family on the coin — one test is how you respond to this. If you look at coin of realm with big head on coin and you grin like Cheshire Cat then you fail test perhaps, yes? If you look at same coin of realm and the response is: "Well yes so what, then perhaps you’ve passed the test.

The group continued the discussion around the theme of power and money.

Q: Did people sometimes suddenly come by a lot of money in your day, Hai?

Hai: Well yes, generally by ambushing someone on the road. This is not without its dangers because the most lucrative ambushing on road carried the death penalty.

Q: Not like winning the lottery then?

Hai: No — though it could be a lottery as to whom you rob on the road. You could rob worthless old monk with no pennies.