Janet: Is everything in life destiny?
There was a silence. Janet then asked if Davia understood. He replied in a different, more serious, tone than usual:
Davia: I understand what you mean but I have a problem with it. You see, we come here and we talk to you and we hope that you feel our love, that you enjoy our company as we enjoy yours and we hope also that you take something away with you that is useful, either for you or to others whom you meet. And you can convey these things in different ways appropriate to the moment, to the time and person. So we hope all this will happen. If we did not come to meet you tonight to say this to you there would be no message. But we come and we make our message known to you.
Now whether you call this destiny or not I do not know but we come and we do our bit and you may do your bit in your turn but it is more like a river than a path, than a road. There are all kinds of possibilities you see. We come, we drop a pebble in the pond here. You may go and drop a pebble in numerous ponds elsewhere. You may reach many, many more people than we can, through your lives, but it is up to you to choose how many pebbles you drop in how many ponds. There is no destiny in this. There is potentiality in this. It is up to you. But you must not feel under a burden (laughing again) to wear yourselves down with a mighty bundle of pebbles. So you must drop the pebbles in the pond as you see fit, when you can. You know there are some people who cannot go by a pond without throwing in a pebble; it is a bit like that. You see a pond, you chuck a pebble in, you watch the ripples and who knows, that pond, that person whom you drop a pebble into, may also drop a pebble elsewhere and so it goes on you see because we are all connected (laughing) on this big internet.
Someone commented that this applied when you gave healing to someone. Davia responded:
Davia: Yes this is it, there is a mighty karmic connection between all. Therefore what is done for good may have far reaching good consequences beyond your imaginations. What is done for evil may have bad far-reaching consequences, also beyond your imagination. But we are all connected my friends. We are all in one big mighty web (laughing). But there is no spider at its centre; there is a mighty Heart, which reaches out and embraces all. And indeed the strands of the web are like the reaching out of this Heart to embrace us all, yes.
There was some further lighthearted chit chat followed by Davia saying:
Davia: I want to come back to your destiny Janet, for I do not want you to be troubled with this destiny too much. You are free; you are all free agents. You are all free beings. So it does not help to think of destiny too much, for destiny can be a limitation and there are no limitations in eternity. There are patterns, there are paths, but even with these paths that you may, in general terms, have agreed to before you came on this earth plane; yet even these paths are not written in stone. There are directions but within these directions all manner of things may come about. But the important thing is that we would hope and we know that all things ultimately work for good. Even the bad things that happen can be transmuted, turned around to good. This is the most important thing, most important principle.
Eileen: I thought that that Janet was referring to the book we've written when she spoke about destiny.
Davia: Well what do you mean by destiny by writing a book? We have an idea we would like to meet you, to work with you, so we reach out to you and you to us and so we are able to form a bond, a connection; so we are able to have communication. Where and what is destiny in all this. There is a mutual reaching out, a connection established. Opportunities came about which facilitated the bringing about of this connection. But it is like there are vibrations in this vast web we speak of and these vibrations can sometimes reach, can arch over towards each other, and connect. When a connection is formed it makes the distance of space and time meaningless. Because if you walk along the strands of the web you walk pretty dam far, yes, to meet someone, but this vibration thing cuts across all this. This vibration thing makes meaningless time and space. We can connect in spite of time and space; it is as if it does not exist. Like when you connect with your Kelly in America, many thousands of miles away. (Laughs). No job for canoe boat but because of the marvels of your technology today you can make that distance and time as nothing. So it is a bit like that when we establish communication with you. We are able to transcend the barriers of time and space. It is like we create another dimension, in which to reach you, that connects you, which transcends time and space.
They (meaning the Spirit Group) are all watching me you know. They say: "You watch it Davia. They are trapping you. You reveal too much of yourself."
Someone commented that Davia had many sides to him. He became humorous again and replied:
Davia: Yes many sides and many wives. You need many sides to have so many wives you see. It is important, for they each have their own needs for a different aspect of me you see. You've got to be versatile at this job. You see it would get boring if I were the same to all of them. They are an excitement for me you see, for I have to uncover, unfold, my different aspects for them. It's creative you see.
Eileen: What's your strongest side, Davia?
Davia: The strongest side is the side I am presenting at the moment, at each moment. The strongest side you see is for the wife I am with, at the moment.
Eileen: When we come over will we meet the philosophical Davia or the jokey Davia?
Davia: You will meet the well-rounded balanced Davia. And there ends my sermon for tonight. (Laughing).
May I return to my theme, yes? So I let you take my theme away with you tonight please my friends. Be balanced and well rounded in your lives, to be at peace. Goodbye my friends. God go with you. The Great Spirit go with you. The One Mind be with you.